Mars on a Shoestring Budget? Not with this Government

Submitted by Bill St. Clair on Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:00:00 GMT
Jim Davidson - What price for tickets to Mars? - a response from Mr. Davidson to the title question. From this page on the Smith2004-discuss mailing list.
It might be realistic to undertake a Mars trip for a couple of billion dollars. One could make use of various off the shelf technology, do things on an entrepreneurial start-up basis, get a lot done without spending money, and possibly aspire to such a budget. Not that it matters.

The real question is: would the powers that be allow any such effort to result in actual trips to Mars? The answer is: no.

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The reality is that access to space is controlled by the defense contractor community. People who expect that to change without bringing down the military industrial complex (aka, the establishment, the powers that be, the status quo, the banking cartel, etc.) have not been following the news in this business sector.

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You are proposing to build stuff that can put thousands of pounds into low Earth orbit. That means, necessarily, that the stuff you are building can put thousands of pounds onto buildings in Washington DC. You are a dangerous person. You are working with dangerous stuff. Your dangerous ideas about flying to Mars threaten the powers that be, in ways that make operational supersonic business jets look like toys. You should be armed at all times, with kevlar in easy reach, and you should *not* be talking about this stuff on a public discussion list.

On the way to Mars, you should be prepared to face government agents who want to kill you. If you aren't ready to shoot in self defense, don't get into this business. On the way to Mars, you should be prepared to drop a rocket stage on the IRS building in Washington, DC. Don't imagine that pretending you don't want to is going to help your case.

GeekWithA.45 - Fury - The Geek is furious about the Report of the Subcommittee on the Constitution of the United States Senate, Ninety-Seventh Congress, Second Session, February 1982. And rightly so. [geekwitha.45]

I allowed my fury to flare up when I read the date.

February, 1982.

That's more than 20 years ago.

That's before the rules prohibiting issuance of class III licenses for new fully automatic firearms, which effectively limits the pool of civilian ownable class III's to those which already exist.

That's before the importation regulations that specify and legitimized the fraudulent "sporting use test" as the litmus test for importation, and which gun bigots now press as the test for gun OWNERSHIP.

It predates the events of Ruby Ridge, in which an ATF sniper kills a dog, a boy, and his mother, in that order.

It predates the Brady Bill, which establishes the mechanism (if not the actuality) of national gun registration.

It predates the heinous Lautenberg Amendment, which theoretically made felons of potentially millions of honest gun owners, who have had domestic restraining orders placed on them when they filed for divorce, (an automatic, standard practice in many jurisdictions, based on the flawed assumption that domestic violence and divorce are intrinsically related) and in cases of ACTUAL domestic violence, disarmed the victims the very people the bill was intended to protect.

It predates the massively fatal ATF raid on the Branch Davidians in WACO, under the pretense that they did not correctly file paperwork on their arms.

It predates the ludicrous Assault Weapon Ban, and it's little brother, the 10 round magazine limit.

All of this was known by members of Congress before any of these acts where even contemplated, before the thugs over at HCI even raised their first funds.

Transportation Security Administration - Are You Prepared for Takeoff? - a site describing the rules the Taking Scissors Away nazis enforce at the airport. It has recently entered my mind that everything the t.s.a. does is a violation of 18 USC 241. It is a conspiracy to deny the fourth amendment requirement that the government obtain a search warrant. Every one of these fascist pigs should be jailed for the full ten years.

Charley Reese - Israel A Danger - Mr. Reese tears Israel a new asshole. [birdman]

Lew Rockwell at LewRockwell.com - Freedom Summit in Phoenix - just three weeks away. Still time to register. $175. [lew]

Held in Phoenix the weekend of October 18-19, 2003, the featured speakers include LRC'ers Ron Paul, Butler Shaffer, Harry Browne, Hans-Hermann Hoppe, and Vin Suprynowicz. Also Nathaniel Branden, among others [Richard Boddie, Donald "Mac" MacPherson, Richard Morris, Boston T. Party, Bill Scannell, Marc Victor]. I spoke there last year, and had a great time.

And if you let them know that you too are an LRC'er, the site will get a donation of 15% of your registration fee.

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