Benchmark for 444 Marlin

Submitted by Bill St. Clair on Wed, 07 May 2003 12:00:00 GMT

From smith2004:

I'd like to convince every human being that the term "voter" is offensive and implies violence against your neighbor. Thus turning them into non-voters. I'd like to live in a world where simply calling someone "a voter" is likely to get you punched in the face or at the very least shunned by the victim of the slur and everyone he associates with. -- Eric Pavao

I usually load my Marlin 444p with 300 grain hollow points and Varget powder. Today I decided to mix it up a little and bought some 240 grain hollow points. Looking at my Hodgdon chart, I noticed a 2200 fps Benchmark load, so I dropped it by a grain to try it out. Benchmark is a powder recommended for .223 (and .222) by a one-hole shooter I know. In my Colt HBAR, it's a little more accurate than Varget. Surprising to see it recommended for the 444 Marlin. Looking forward to trying it out at the range, though, without a scope, I won't be able to judge accuracy very well.

Brad Spangler at Rational Review - Libertarians vs. Pavlov's Dogs of War - why the libertarian movement needs to boot out the minarchists and work towards a true libertarian, therefore anarchist, society. [smith2004]

Again, what do we really want?

We want private law, private security and private defense.

We want a polycentric legal system not tied to geographically-based monopolies on coercion.

We want a stateless society -- and politics will never give us that.

So how do we get rid of government? We get rid of it the same way the stateless society of the future will suppress future attempts at government. There will always be new attempts at government -- just as there will always be new burglary rings.

We face an overwhelming crime problem. Once we truly grasp that we are afflicted with horrendously powerful bandit gangs that call themselves governments -- then it ought to become clear that we need effective private legal institutions, private security and private defense.

The Straights Times - Chinese villagers attack Sars quarantine centres - Hehe. Good for them. [grabbe]

The Virginian-Pilot at Rense.com - Using Cash Can Trigger 'Suspicious Activities Report' - Saks no longer accepts more than $350/month in cash purchases. Would make it harder for them to meet the reporting requirements of the U.S.A. P.A.T.R.I.O.T. act, doncha know. [grabbe]

KeepAndBearArms.com - Silveira v. Lockyer is Going to the Supreme Court! - Good. [smith2004]

Roger Boyes at Times Online - Envoy dubs US a police state - a "senior Berlin diplomat" has dubbed the United States a police state. Heil Bushcroft! [smith2004]

Joseph E. Olson and David B. Kopel at The Libertarian Alliance - All the Way Down the Slippery Slope: Gun Prohibition in England and Some Lessons for Civil Liberties in America - a long piece recommended by Sean Gabb. [survivalarts]

This Essay aims to refine the understanding of slippery slopes by examining a particular nation that did slide all the way down the slippery slope.(p.400) When the twentieth century began, the right to arms in Great Britain was robust, and subject to virtually no restrictions. As the century closes, the right has been almost obliterated. In studying the destruction of the British right to arms, this Essay draws conclusions about how slippery slopes operate in real life, and about what kinds of conditions increase or decrease the risk that the first steps down a hill will turn into a slide down a slippery slope.

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Slippery slopes are not inevitable, but neither are they imaginary. The British experience demonstrates that many civil liberties, including the right to arms, really can slowly slide all the way to the bottom of the slippery slope. While we have not aimed to convince readers to value any particular civil liberty, such as arms, speech, or protection from warrantless searches, we have attempted to show that it is reasonable for groups that do honor such rights, like the NRA, ACLU, or NACDL, to refuse to acquiesce in "reasonable" infringements of those rights. Even though, as John Maynard (p.465)Keynes observed, we are all dead in the long run, persons who cherish a particular civil liberty want that liberty to endure not just in their own lifetimes, but in the lives of subsequent generations. In the long run, the best way to protect a given civil liberty from destruction may be to resist even the smallest infringements in short run.

Greg, Jeff & Boge Quinn at GunBlast - 1911 Shoot-Off - They invited Springfield Armory, Smith & Wesson, Kimber, Para Ordnance, Les Baer Custom, Ed Brown, Wilson Combat, Dan Wesson, Armscor, STI, and Rock River Arms. Springfield Armory, Smith & Wesson, Kimber, and Rock River Arms took them up on the offer. The others declined to loan a pistol for testing. [gunblast]

Gunblast's recommendation? If you are seeking a fine example of the 1911 semi-automatic pistol, then quit looking. Any of these modern classics will fill the bill very nicely. All are well built, very tight, and very accurate. As stated earlier, we don't waste time testing junk.

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Government doesn't work. Never did. Never will. Can't. But there are lots of good people. Love them.

-- Bill St. Clair

The Atlanta Declaration

Every man, woman, and responsible child has an unalienable individual, civil, Constitutional, and human right to obtain, own, and carry, openly or concealed, any weapon -- rifle, shotgun, handgun, machinegun, anything -- any time, any place, without asking anyone's permission.

-- L. Neil Smith

Reread that pesky first clause of the Second Amendment. It doesn't say what any of us thought it said. What it says is that infringing the right of the people to keep and bear arms is treason. What else do you call an act that endangers "the security of a free state"? And if it's treason, then it's punishable by death. I suggest due process, speedy trials, and public hangings.

-- L. Neil Smith

A Penalty Clause for the Bill of Rights

Any official, appointed or elected, at any level of government, who attempts, through legislative act or other means, to nullify, evade, or avoid the provisions of the first ten amendments to this Constitution, or of the Thirteenth Amendment, shall be summarily removed from office, and, upon conviction, deprived of all pay and benefits including pension, and sentenced to imprisonment for life.

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Based on 253 journal articles, 99 books, 43 government publications, and some of its own empirical work, the panel couldn't identify a single gun control regulation that reduced violent crime, suicide or accidents.

-- John Lott, commenting on the National Academy of Sciences report on gun control laws.

Who is a libertarian?

Zero Aggression Principle ("Zap")

"A libertarian is a person who believes that no one has the right, under any circumstances, to initiate force against another human being, or to advocate or delegate its initiation. Those who act consistently with this principle are libertarians, whether they realize it or not. Those who fail to act consistently with it are not libertarians, regardless of what they may claim."

-- L. Neil Smith

(Formerly called the "Non-Aggression Principle", or "NAP")

Why Did It Have to be... Guns?

Make no mistake: all politicians -- even those ostensibly on the side of guns and gun ownership -- hate the issue and anyone, like me, who insists on bringing it up. They hate it because it's an X-ray machine. It's a Vulcan mind-meld. It's the ultimate test to which any politician -- or political philosophy -- can be put.

If a politician isn't perfectly comfortable with the idea of his average constituent, any man, woman, or responsible child, walking into a hardware store and paying cash -- for any rifle, shotgun, handgun, machinegun, anything -- without producing ID or signing one scrap of paper, he isn't your friend no matter what he tells you.

If he isn't genuinely enthusiastic about his average constituent stuffing that weapon into a purse or pocket or tucking it under a coat and walking home without asking anybody's permission, he's a four-flusher, no matter what he claims.

What his attitude -- toward your ownership and use of weapons -- conveys is his real attitude about you. And if he doesn't trust you, then why in the name of John Moses Browning should you trust him?

-- L. Neil Smith

Concise

"Tell me," I was once asked, "What do you think about gun control? Give me the short answer." To which I replied, "If you try to take our firearms we will kill you."

-- Mike Vanderboegh

Also from The Atlanta Declaration:

... like going to the bathroom, breathing, eating, sleeping, or making love, it turns out that self-defense is a bodily function one cannot safely or effectively delegate to a second party.

-- L. Neil Smith

This does not mean that "Marijuana should be available by prescription." It means that morphine sulfate should be available in five pound bags at the supermarket for a couple of bucks, like sugar... but probably in a different aisle, to avoid confusion.

-- Vin Suprynowicz

If you refuse to pay unjust taxes, your property will be confiscated. If you attempt to defend your property, you will be arrested. If you resist arrest, you will be clubbed. If you defend yourself against clubbing, you will be shot dead. These procedures are known as the Rule of Law.

-- Edward Abbey

The state can only survive as long as a majority is programmed to believe that theft isn't wrong if it's called taxation or asset forfeiture or eminent domain, that assault and kidnapping isn't wrong if it's called arrest, that mass murder isn't wrong if it's called war.

-- Bill St. Clair