Submitted by Bill St. Clair on Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:30:15 GMT  <== RKBA ==> 

Mike Vanderboegh talks about Nechama Tec's book, Defiance: The Bielski Partisans, about a group of Jews who defied the Germans, and survived the war. He also reprints Sultan Knish'es review of the not-yet-released movie.

"Without a rifle you are nothing, worthless, you are waiting for death, any minute, any second." -- Aron Bielski


And that, rather than the uplifting messages, serves as the real lesson of the Holocaust. You either survive, or you don't. The Holocaust is not a call for tolerance or for sanctifying victimization, those are the liberal American Jewish fallacies. The Holocaust was a wake up call, warning that none of the strategies that Jews had used until now, negotiation, waiting, appeasement, all defense reactions had been nullified. You could give up, run if you could, or fight to survive.


That is the first and foremost lesson of the Holocaust to be learned. For all the unanswered moral, philosophical and theological questions-- the bottom line is that millions of Jews were killed, because they could be. The only true defense against a Holocaust is the ability to resist and to survive one. Before the State of Israel was officially declared, the Bielskis made their own Jewish state in a forest, to live as free men and women mere kilometers from their would be killers, and though like the real state and its real leaders, they may have been flawed, their triumph is not some uplifting moral, but a matter of accomplishment, the 1200 they hid in the forest against all odds, and through determination and hard work, they did not become victims or fatalities, they survived. And through their guidance and efforts so did 1200 others. No higher praise is needed.

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Submitted by Walter on Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:33:00 GMT

There were no millions of Jews killed in 'death camps'. Hydrogen cyanide is useless as an agent of mass murder. The operators of the gas chambers would have died in the process. Recent studies with side-looking radar show that there are no graves at Treblinka, none. A ridiculous story is that millions were killed from exhaust fumes from Russian tanks, even though Diesel exhaust is not toxic.

The International Red Cross inspected the German work camps throughout the war, and wrote many reports. Many people died of typhus, but there were no reports, none, of poison gas being used on people. The hydrogen cyanide was there to try to reduce flea infestations, therefore less typhus.

This is well summarized at Are you not familiar with this site?

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Just what I need

Submitted by Bill St. Clair on Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:35:36 GMT

Just what I need. A holocaust denier. But your post is mostly on topic, and there appears to be some actual information between the anti-zionist propaganda at the linked site, so I'll let the comment stand. Become too noisy or argumentative about it, though, and I'll run your comments off of my property.

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Defiance opens this Friday

Submitted by Bill St. Clair on Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:36:10 GMT

Defiance opens this Friday, January 16. Looking forward to seeing it.

Only 50% of Rotten Tomatoes' reviewers liked it, but I'm going anyway. It's 2 1/4 hours long.

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