Submitted by Bill St. Clair on Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:00:00 GMT
From picks:
"Hanging one scoundrel, it appears, does not deter the next. Well, what of it? The first one is at least disposed of." -- H.L. Mencken

From clairefiles:

"They may torture my body...break my bones... even kill me. Then... they will have my dead body... not my obedience". -- Gandhi

# George Potter at The Claire Files Forum - Odyssey: A Prose Poem - made me smile and chuckle. Don't miss it. [clairefiles]

# Claire Wolfe - You Know, We Could Easily Settle This Question - The Busheviks are making lots of noise about what constitutes "torture". Claire has an idea for settling the question. Let them undergo the non-torture themselves, and then tell us what they think. Brilliant. [claire]

Submit George W. Bush, Alberto Gonzalez, Condoleezza Rice, and Donald Rumsfeld to the interrogation techniques they claim are not "torture." Let them endure those techniques exactly as they'd be inflicted on anybody else -- just as vigorously, just as long, and with just as little knowledge of when the "discomfort" will stop. Let the CIA handle it. They've got decades of experience inflicting this alleged non-torture.

Then let Our Glorious Leaders come back and share their experiences with the world. If, after that, they still insist that waterboarding, strappado, hoods, electric shocks, biting dogs, extreme heat, cold, constant darkness, etc. aren't torture, I say we believe them.

# DPR 2006 at The Claire Files Forums - Ohio passes it's own Patriot Act; can't you hear the jackboots tromping! - hasn't yet been signed by Governor Taft, but he is expected to do so. Fascist pigs. Link is to discussion on the Yahoo News story, Bill Would Allow Arrests For No Reason In Public Place. SB 9 is the only bill that matched a search for "patriot" on the Ohio General Assembly's web site. It looks like the one referenced by the article. My word processor counts the text as 49 pages (in 12-point Times New Roman), 21,275 words, 135k bytes. [clairefiles]

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