Black Man with a Gun

Submitted by Bill St. Clair on Sun, 04 Dec 2005 13:00:00 GMT

From clairefiles:

"I do think that irate foreign muslims will take care of DC within five-ten years, thanks to the wonders of fission technology.

"So the best thing to do doesn't involve killing anyone, but instead hunkering down and keeping one's powder dry, which is what this board is about anyway."

--Starborn

From kaba:

"Resistance to sudden violence, for the preservation not only of my person, my limbs, and life, but of my property, is an indisputable right of nature which I have never surrendered to the public by the compact of society, and which perhaps, I could not surrender if I would." -- John Adams

and:

"Americans who value freedom had better be more concerned about the gun control crowd than the criminals. The criminals want your money. The Neo-Totalitarians want your freedom." -- Charlie Reese

# Mark Fiore at ShootFirstLaw.org - Cartoon - Mr. Fiore has gone off the deep end with this one. Dr. Seuss sells blood in the streets. Well done artistically, as usual, but expresses typical Brady Bunch lies. [kaba]

The shoot first law is really quite a thrill,
For it allows us all to kill, kill, kill.

# Jeff Cooper's Commentaries - November 2005: Many Thanks - "Steyr Scout" (SS) -> "Mannlicher Scout"; the evolution of hand-carried weapons; BC & AD vs BCE & CE; the "spontoon"; the establishment clause; the reduced strength of the modern soldier; Joe Sledge reduced to buying beef; a drawback of the big 50; effectivesness of Glock, 1911, .223, .308, .50; the four seasons and the difference between Christmas and the solstice; Clash of the Carriers; Theodore Roosevelt on immigration; the problem of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals; "... good government is a function of good people, no matter what form it takes, which is a very sound rule. But getting good people is the problem, since good people do not as a rule seek employment in government."; Gunsite's raven totem; importance of proper terminology in smallarms training; "Note that there is no real need for a telescope sight on a rifle for dangerous game..."; a hot lap in a fast car on top of the Great Wall of China for grandson Tyler Heath?; Cooper's elegant heavy rifle returning from Africa; The Kurds; "The Socom 16 seems to be a Very Good Thing (VGT), though I have not yet had a chance to wring it out"; were kids stronger in Col. Cooper's days?; "Barnes X" is not a "bronze"; a couple of quotes from soldiers returned from Iraq; no remorse for Hiroshima and Nagasaki; "It is an axiom that people get the government they deserve. This certainly seems true of San Francisco."

# Gerard Valentino at The Buckeye Firearms Association - Hoping for a Return to the Wild West - me too. [kaba]

Returning to such a time when innocent people could defend their own life without interference from the police or anti-gun do-gooders only concerned with filing some emotional compulsion to confiscate guns would be a step backwards for criminals and therefore a step forward for everyone else.

# Vin Suprynowicz at The Las Vegas Review-Journal - If a black man is armed, is he a criminal? - in the eyes of most cops, yes. Which is why the shooting of a number of black off-duty cops by other cops has prompted the idiots in the audience to propose disarming off-duty cops. Vin has a better idea.

Instead of disarming off-duty cops so the police can continue to feel free to shoot anyone out of uniform who they see with a gun (especially if he's black), why not alter police training as follows?

"This is an armed nation. Twenty-five percent of your fellow 'civilians' own firearms, and have a God-given right to carry them around. Except for writing traffic tickets for revenue, they have just as much right to chase and apprehend a fleeing felon -- or to present a weapon in defense of themselves or others -- as you do. This includes black folks. Get used to it.

"So, even though it may initially seem to make our jobs harder, let's stop hassling people when we perceive they have guns. If a call comes in reporting a 'man with a gun,' let's ask whether the man is brandishing or threatening anyone, and otherwise advise the caller that being armed is not a crime.

"And, particularly, let's stop shooting people who draw their guns when they're being assaulted. Yes, pausing those extra few seconds may sometimes put your own life in danger. This is still a less-dangerous job than hard-rock mining or fishing in Alaska, and you volunteered for it."

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-- Bill St. Clair

The Atlanta Declaration

Every man, woman, and responsible child has an unalienable individual, civil, Constitutional, and human right to obtain, own, and carry, openly or concealed, any weapon -- rifle, shotgun, handgun, machinegun, anything -- any time, any place, without asking anyone's permission.

-- L. Neil Smith

Reread that pesky first clause of the Second Amendment. It doesn't say what any of us thought it said. What it says is that infringing the right of the people to keep and bear arms is treason. What else do you call an act that endangers "the security of a free state"? And if it's treason, then it's punishable by death. I suggest due process, speedy trials, and public hangings.

-- L. Neil Smith

A Penalty Clause for the Bill of Rights

Any official, appointed or elected, at any level of government, who attempts, through legislative act or other means, to nullify, evade, or avoid the provisions of the first ten amendments to this Constitution, or of the Thirteenth Amendment, shall be summarily removed from office, and, upon conviction, deprived of all pay and benefits including pension, and sentenced to imprisonment for life.

-- L. Neil Smith

Based on 253 journal articles, 99 books, 43 government publications, and some of its own empirical work, the panel couldn't identify a single gun control regulation that reduced violent crime, suicide or accidents.

-- John Lott, commenting on the National Academy of Sciences report on gun control laws.

Who is a libertarian?

Zero Aggression Principle ("Zap")

"A libertarian is a person who believes that no one has the right, under any circumstances, to initiate force against another human being, or to advocate or delegate its initiation. Those who act consistently with this principle are libertarians, whether they realize it or not. Those who fail to act consistently with it are not libertarians, regardless of what they may claim."

-- L. Neil Smith

(Formerly called the "Non-Aggression Principle", or "NAP")

Why Did It Have to be... Guns?

Make no mistake: all politicians -- even those ostensibly on the side of guns and gun ownership -- hate the issue and anyone, like me, who insists on bringing it up. They hate it because it's an X-ray machine. It's a Vulcan mind-meld. It's the ultimate test to which any politician -- or political philosophy -- can be put.

If a politician isn't perfectly comfortable with the idea of his average constituent, any man, woman, or responsible child, walking into a hardware store and paying cash -- for any rifle, shotgun, handgun, machinegun, anything -- without producing ID or signing one scrap of paper, he isn't your friend no matter what he tells you.

If he isn't genuinely enthusiastic about his average constituent stuffing that weapon into a purse or pocket or tucking it under a coat and walking home without asking anybody's permission, he's a four-flusher, no matter what he claims.

What his attitude -- toward your ownership and use of weapons -- conveys is his real attitude about you. And if he doesn't trust you, then why in the name of John Moses Browning should you trust him?

-- L. Neil Smith

Concise

"Tell me," I was once asked, "What do you think about gun control? Give me the short answer." To which I replied, "If you try to take our firearms we will kill you."

-- Mike Vanderboegh

Also from The Atlanta Declaration:

... like going to the bathroom, breathing, eating, sleeping, or making love, it turns out that self-defense is a bodily function one cannot safely or effectively delegate to a second party.

-- L. Neil Smith

This does not mean that "Marijuana should be available by prescription." It means that morphine sulfate should be available in five pound bags at the supermarket for a couple of bucks, like sugar... but probably in a different aisle, to avoid confusion.

-- Vin Suprynowicz

If you refuse to pay unjust taxes, your property will be confiscated. If you attempt to defend your property, you will be arrested. If you resist arrest, you will be clubbed. If you defend yourself against clubbing, you will be shot dead. These procedures are known as the Rule of Law.

-- Edward Abbey

The state can only survive as long as a majority is programmed to believe that theft isn't wrong if it's called taxation or asset forfeiture or eminent domain, that assault and kidnapping isn't wrong if it's called arrest, that mass murder isn't wrong if it's called war.

-- Bill St. Clair