So Long, Ron... You Rat Bastard

Submitted by Bill St. Clair on Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:59:56 GMT  <== Politics ==> 

Kim du Toit is not at all happy about Ron Paul's vote, with 16 other Republicans, and all but 2 of the House's Democrats, for H.CON.RES.63, "Disapproving of the decision of the President announced on January 10, 2007, to deploy more than 20,000 additional United States combat troops to Iraq." I posted the following comment: [kimdutoit]

Ron Paul was, a long time ago, the Libertarian Party's candidate for president. But he's a Constitutionalist. He won't vote for any legislation that isn't explicitly authorized by the Constitution. Conservatives used to toe that line. Too bad they don't any more.

A liberal is a socialist who worships safety.
A conservative is a socialist who worships order.

"Socialist" is one of the foulest curse words I know.

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Greetings from Scottsdale

Submitted by mitch on Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:41:14 GMT

Greetings from Scottsdale -Both Kim and Connie have responded to your posting re: Ron Paul. Just thought you'd like to know.


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Oh, I knew

Submitted by Bill St. Clair on Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:31:19 GMT

I always turn on email notifications when I post on Kim's web site. Then sit back and read, but rarely enter the conversation again. Statists and other religious freaks (e.g. anarchists) are rarely possible to convince of anything outside of their narrow view. Not to say that I don't respect Mr. or Mrs. du Toit. I do, and that's why I continue to read Kim's posts. But they haven't realized, and probably never will, that government doesn't work, never will work, and can't possibly work. Nothing works, actually. Except plain old human kindness and common sense. And even that has problems. Sorta the nature of fragile, short-sighted, limited-memory beings made out of meat.

When I post over there, I'm not talking to the du Toits or their cheering section. I'm talking to the remnant.

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What's that old cliche about

Submitted by Ken Hagler on Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:23:29 GMT

What's that old cliche about judging a man by his enemies?

Given Kim du Toit's history of advocating genocide and cheering for torture, I think that applies here...

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Ron Paul

Submitted by Michael Paladin on Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:51:17 GMT

I posted a comment at the website. Reading through the comments, it was sad, though not surprising, at how thoroughly liberty and non-interventionism are scorned and dismissed by "conservatives."

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As if!

Submitted by Mark Odell on Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:17:35 GMT

"So long"? As if he and Connie-Baby were ever on Paul's side except by random chance? (That woman can spit out more unsupported assertions per minute, and use more words--and tedious ones, at that--to say less, than anybody I've ever seen; I predict a bright future for her in Republican politics, Ann-Coulter &/or führerprinzip division.)

My, my, and so much substance-free vitriol against the good doctor, too! Must have really hit a nerve, eh? Getting a bit too close to upsetting their tidy little Republican applecart, is he?

I observe that with great care nobody there has bothered to post a transcript of Rep. Sam Johnson's speech, so that those of us who are video-challenged can read for ourselves what he said, and afterwards critique it if need be, without being swayed by rhetorical attempts to "compel the effects of eloquence, even when the words do not seem to have any traceable meaning." (Mark Twain)

> When I post over there, I'm not talking to the du Toits or their cheering section. I'm talking to the remnant.

Thanks, that answers my question.

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Submitted by Bill St. Clair on Wed, 21 Feb 2007 00:36:37 GMT

Well. Kim has had an RCOB moment over the Ron Paul quote I posted. But he's rebounded nicely in Point of Order. Got a "Bravo!" from me.

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I still check out Kim's

Submitted by Past remnant on Wed, 21 Feb 2007 02:28:32 GMT

I still check out Kim's occasionally, but I stopped completely from looking into the cheering sections. Glad to see there are still those speaking to the critical thinking remnant.

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Re: So Long, Ron... You Rat Bastard

Submitted by james on Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:21:35 GMT

I, too, used to read Kim's page quite often - I admire the breadth of his knowledge and experience with firearms. I did, however, stop admiring him so much when (back in 2004) I realized that as long as it's not a Democrat calling the shots, Kim is as pro-state and as much of a government cheerleader as some of the worst of them.

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The Other Side ofKi si

Submitted by Michael Paladin on Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:40:56 GMT

Thanks for pointing me a great place to rag on "conservatives." I'm having a lot of fun singing out of tune in the "choir."

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on point of order

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:16:35 GMT

I read most of the referenced article by Mr.DuToit. I thought it was a mishmash of illogic. So the fat corrupt pig Hastert is okay because he is a republican? And the republicans are all about freedom and fiscal responsibility? And small non intrusive government? This is insane thinking.
Just as an aside, I flew into Johanneburg, S.A. in 1980 and had no trouble with my 2 .45 auto pistols and 500 rds of ammunition. So at one time the gun laws were decent.

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